tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219411120276420163.post7920763373728791565..comments2023-05-12T17:08:36.619-04:00Comments on The Navy Christian: Frustrations with EschatologyThe Navy Christianhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15116964729906856912noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219411120276420163.post-17693337714373779962013-12-01T18:02:49.784-05:002013-12-01T18:02:49.784-05:00You are not a heretic. I know of no amillennialist...You are not a heretic. I know of no amillennialist or postmillennialist who regards premillennialists as uneducated. <br /><br />Christ's reign from heaven does not minimalize the millennium to being only an idea. The question is which view is right. Paul regards Christ as reigning now 1Cor.15:25. Rev. 20 does not tell us where Christ will be when he reigns. Furthermore, John saw only souls, not bodies, which reigned with Christ.<br /><br />My point on Jn. 6 is that Jesus was certain that he would accomplish his mission.<br /><br />The millennium is an interesting issue. How about an exposition? Something brief will do. Who knows where the comments will go?boilt frognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219411120276420163.post-34661492249895070282013-12-01T01:51:44.349-05:002013-12-01T01:51:44.349-05:00I obviously wrote these comments in the stupor of ...I obviously wrote these comments in the stupor of great frustration, yet I think you're attempting to confuse things that aren't confusing. <br /><br />Of course I don't think the church can usher in the kingdom. That is a post-millennial idea. The social justice idea, which can be dictated by a Christian goverment, will allow Christians to oversee the equalization of everyone and the care of those who are burdened. That is very simplistic of course. But it is a fallacy. Not one country in this world is currently Christian, and all attempts by such believers have led to naught. I'm of course being very blunt here, but it's true in my estimation. <br /><br />I was blunt to suggest that amillennialists dismiss the discussion of the millennium. They do not of course, but they do take such liberty with the idea so as to suggest the Christ is currently living out the reign from heaven. I think you can agree with me here. I would suggest that this minimalizes the concept of the millennial reign to the point that it is no longer an event, but rather an idea. <br /><br />Abraham and Noah simply point to a historical reference. The comments are unimportant. Postmillennialists contend that the earth can be saved, and is being saved via the church. I was simply contrasting that (sarcastically of course) with one OT man who was there when the earth could not be saved and the other who tried to save a part of it. That is all. <br /><br />Jesus said in Matt 7 that few would find the way. I would say that represents the ones in John 6. I don't know how many that is of course, but I would say not many. Incidentally, I don't know why you brought that up. You'll have to elaborate when you have time. <br /><br />Do you agree with me that none of us are heretics? You didn't say anything about it, so I was curious. Do you agree that amillennialists (in particular) and also postmillennialists view premillennialists as uneducated? You proposed no counter to this as well. The Navy Christianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15116964729906856912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9219411120276420163.post-7283438562936638952013-11-30T21:29:16.235-05:002013-11-30T21:29:16.235-05:00I find your comments confusing.
Do you think tha...I find your comments confusing. <br /><br />Do you think that you can "usher in the kingdom by social justice"? What is social justice?<br /><br />"His breadbasket"?<br /><br />The amillennialists do not dismiss discussion of the millennium. <br /><br />What does it mean to usher in Christ's kingdom? The post-millennialist would point to the great commission. What is Christ's kingdom? How do they define it?<br /><br />I do not understand you comments on Noah and Abraham.<br /><br />Jesus believed that those whom the father gave to Him would come to Him. Jn 6. How much of the world is that? boilt frognoreply@blogger.com